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September 13, 2007

New DigitalGlobe Imagery for Steve Fossett Search

[UPDATE 21-Sept 1330: I found a new KML file put together which not only shows all the released imagery datasets, but also includes placemarks of already marked locations. Download this master GE file , which comes to us from this Search for Steve Fossett web site]

New imagery is available to help search for Steve Fossett and it comes from DigitalGlobe (the biggest supplier of satellite imagery in Google Earth). This new imagery is to the south-east of the earlier search imagery from GeoEye. The imagery available for loading in Google Earth has been posted at this Amazon Mechanical Turk site. You can use the Amazon site to search, or you can just look with Google Earth. I've created a new Steve Fossett network link that lets you look at both sets of imagery. The network link includes red outlines around each set of imagery so people don't accidentally search beyond the new imagery. If you go outside the borders you are looking at the base Google Earth imagery - which was taken long before Steve Fossett went missing.

NOTE: I tried asking Google about this previously reported imagery from DigitalGlobe. But, Google is not commenting on their involvement. I called DigitalGlobe today, and they told me they had given this imagery to Google, but had not heard anything as of early this morning. Obviously, somebody processed the imagery and turned it over to the Amazon Mechanical Turk people. The DigitalGlobe photography available in the network link is better aligned with the base imagery. So, it makes it easier to compare before and after.

Posted by FrankTaylor at September 13, 2007 05:22 PM

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  • Comments

    Well done! Let's hope this yields some results.

    Posted by: Tom at September 13, 2007 05:54 PM

    Well done Frank et al-don't know whether this was due to the 'collective gripe' going on the forum or whether it was just a time delay problem in collating and obtaining the data from other sources.

    Anyway-good news we can all now continue with our assistance and hopefully come to a successful conclusion

    Posted by: Campo at September 13, 2007 06:22 PM

    38°27'20.55"N, 118°27'44.31"W Possible?

    Posted by: Tom at September 13, 2007 06:56 PM

    Don't know if this is possible, but one assumes that this area has already been swept by the SAR teams.

    It would be extremely useful if they could upload (or make available) all the sites they have looked at so far, so that we can quickly exclude these from our deliberations.

    Posted by: Campo at September 13, 2007 06:56 PM

    Don't know if this is possible, but one assumes that this area has already been swept by the SAR teams.

    It would be extremely useful if they could upload (or make available) all the sites they have looked at so far, so that we can quickly exclude these from our deliberations.

    Posted by: Campo at September 13, 2007 06:56 PM

    thnx for the info on the update frank;-)

    Posted by: smokeonit at September 13, 2007 07:11 PM

    I verify all posted coord. if its something i will post back so others will know location
    if nothing i wont post
    it might help

    tdfusa@bellsouth.net

    Posted by: rick at September 13, 2007 07:39 PM

    A few things that caught my eye in the northern zone of the latest imagery:

    38.51885, -118.40641

    38.49404, -118.45891

    38.48617, -118.43193

    Posted by: James Harrell at September 13, 2007 09:43 PM

    Here is a target. It appears UNDER water, has cirrect length, and there may be scarring on reiver bank, due East of the target.
    Dave Reason, Jr.
    Wichita, KS.
    38°49'21.07"N, 119°19'44.28"W

    Posted by: Dave at September 13, 2007 10:01 PM

    These didn't come up as my hits but I always look around near my assignment.

    The first four are most likely terrain.

    But the fifth is intriguing. It looks like a delta wing shape.

    38°15'26.45"N 118°30'18.90"W

    38°15'3.24"N 118°31'0.27"W

    38°15'2.73"N 118°31'0.66"W

    38°15'6.91"N 118°30'17.25"W

    38°15'18.14"N 118°30'16.25"W

    Posted by: Mike at September 13, 2007 10:23 PM

    See the link for my location 'hits'. #10 is from the new image.

    http://pages.sbcglobal.net/mike_in_katy/My SF Locations.kmz

    I tried to sign-up at the Amazon sight and couldn't. It occured to me that Mechanical Turk might be taking advantage of this infortunate situation just to make a buck (or get new customers).

    It would be much simplier if they would just say "here's the image, here's our email, have at it!".

    Posted by: Mike Taylor at September 14, 2007 12:04 AM

    Check this out....

    38.471540,-118.409067

    Posted by: Jim at September 14, 2007 12:35 AM

    38°26'40.45"N Latitude
    118°29'10.06"W Longitude

    Looks like a crash site

    Posted by: Denise at September 14, 2007 12:49 AM

    View around 1500 ft. Color looks more like the surrounding earth, but the shape strongly resembles that of a plane.

    37°59'44.37"N 119°26'55.62"W

    In case we do find potential sites, how do we officially report them?

    Posted by: Jayow at September 14, 2007 04:18 AM

    38°31'52.46"N 118°24'4.74"W
    38°31'44.66"N 118°23'52.68"W
    second opinion please ---

    Posted by: patricia at September 14, 2007 04:59 AM

    Please have a look at coordinates:

    3810'11.90"N
    11924'21.35"W

    rgrds
    Patrick

    Posted by: Patrick at September 14, 2007 05:58 AM

    Bravo to your interest in finding Steve. If you are looking for locations on the Digital Globe imagery that come from the "Turk", it designed to spread us out and make us look systematically. I'm surprised that if you are looking at the same instructions that I see (on stevefossett.com) that you aren't reporting coordinates in decimal degrees (rather than dms or decimal minutes, or whatever). Let's be consistent, so we don't have to do extra conversions and make mistakes! Also, send the "points of interest" back to the Turk so that the search crews can check them out.

    Posted by: Dave Greenlee at September 14, 2007 10:56 AM

    My observations from a humble beginner.

    A tutorial and example of how to look would be nice but perhaps there is no good way to learn other than through trial and error.

    Make sure to use the current overlay/layer.

    Some of your objects are big.

    Check out - 38 53' 35.41" -118 49' 13.17"

    This is supposedly a confirmed site of an old crash. From the forum site -
    http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/999457/Main/992512/

    Turn on your "scale legend" and watch how close you have to get before you see anything.

    Posted by: Mike at September 14, 2007 11:07 AM

    two locations using the latest overlay -

    38°23'51.79"N 119°11'28.09"W

    38°23'58.85"N 119°11'32.45"W

    Posted by: Mike at September 14, 2007 04:41 PM

    At 37.9984 -118.426 I found what might be a fuselage at the end of a straight line path cut thru the brush near the top of a hill. Off to either side of the skid path looks like what might be wing struts. I had been given a HIT about a 1/4 mile NE of here. I replied to that HIT, so I hope the SAR folks will actually read it and look at it rather than just pass over it since no one else probably responded to that HIT.

    Posted by: 66 Fox at September 14, 2007 07:02 PM

    Is it me or is Turk showing the old data as a visual now and then you turn on the new imagery? I think the other locational tiles were in the new then compared to the old?

    Posted by: George Myers at September 14, 2007 07:04 PM

    I meant shouldn't Turk be the way it was the new SAT image in the tile then compare to old in GE? It's now backwards I believe the old imagery is in TURK and you have to look at every one in GE instead of magnifying the browser to 190% for example?

    Posted by: George Myers at September 14, 2007 08:30 PM

    Saw a site that listed the coodinates of the ranch that Fossett left from. The nearest airstrip to their coordinate is at: 38°36'42.39"N, 119° 0'4.42"W

    Posted by: r sikorski at September 14, 2007 08:54 PM

    This looks like possible debris from a crash:

    38.466568,-119.119949

    Posted by: Dave at September 14, 2007 09:13 PM

    38 28'55.67 N 119 24'18.23" W Check it out!

    Thanks
    Amber

    Posted by: Amber McKinney - Nebraska at September 14, 2007 10:00 PM

    curious what the coordinates were from where he took off at and in which direction he was seen flying?

    Posted by: denise at September 14, 2007 10:05 PM

    Interesting symbol here (petroglyph?) Looks like it's on the older imagery though.

    38.487167,-119.022446

    If the Turk imagery looks wrong, click the link on the right again. I think there's new imagery around the airport.

    Posted by: will at September 14, 2007 11:03 PM

    interesting object 38°23'59.24", -118°58'31.61"

    Posted by: Greg Barron at September 14, 2007 11:21 PM

    After playing with My Places and shuffling folders, etc, Search area is very fuzzy. As GE goes to the DG area, two files are not found: 00.kmz and 02.kmz. Red Borders are gone, and second area - long rectagular one SE of main area - is also gone.
    What have I done?

    Posted by: Dave at September 15, 2007 02:52 AM


    look at 38.5394333,-118.477466
    it looks like it could be a debry field.

    Posted by: don richardson at September 15, 2007 03:08 AM

    Coordinates now including the degree character:

    38°10'11.90"N
    119°24'21.35"W

    Posted by: patrick at September 15, 2007 05:21 AM

    38°28'15.05"N 118°55'15.76"W
    possible plane?

    Posted by: Case at September 15, 2007 07:13 AM

    Looks to be a plane down in 38°17'18.16"N, 119°15'13.79"W, and another (slightly less plane shaped) one close by at 38°17'22.65"N, 119°15'11.49"W.

    Both spots appear to be on a dry lake bed (which is flooded in the old data) so perhaps Fossett set down to examine the terrain and for some reason was unable to take off again.

    Posted by: PlanetNiles at September 15, 2007 09:17 AM

    Why is the shadow of this jet blue ?

    38 30' 17.77" N

    119 09' 30.31" W

    Posted by: Dave at September 15, 2007 10:36 AM

    Searchers and Posters:
    please remember to check your numbers before posting.
    U should have 4 sets of numbers for lat. and long.
    it makes it easier to verify findings.
    thanks

    tdfusa@bellsouth.net

    Posted by: rick at September 15, 2007 01:06 PM

    38°10'37.79"N 118°33'2.36"W

    That looks interesting to me. Anyone else think so?

    Posted by: Michael P at September 15, 2007 02:30 PM

    If we know the color of his plane, can't we filter the sat images.
    There has to be a graphics program that will
    filter for color..

    Posted by: john cushard at September 15, 2007 03:55 PM

    Here's another interesting object: 38°26'4.72"N, 119° 0'37.44"W

    Where can we report these? What if this is Steve's plane???

    Posted by: Michael P at September 15, 2007 03:56 PM

    I am sure you all have already figured this out but as a suggestion, it helps to rotate the image by using the compass rose on GE untill the image is rightside up. I do this by rotating the image untill the shadows are directly below (toward the bottom of the screen) the trees or buildings and it helps to better discriminate between terrain and man made objects.

    Hope this helps.

    Posted by: Jeremy Yachik at September 15, 2007 04:19 PM

    "38 28'55.67 N 119 24'18.23" W Check it out! Thanks
    Amber"

    looks like a SAR plane in flight.

    steve's plane is 2 colored. blue with white stripes on the wings.

    image of the plane: http://stevefossett.com/pics/latest_news_page/SuperDecathlon.jpg

    Posted by: smokeonit at September 15, 2007 09:15 PM

    May be plane at
    38.4665314863, 119.120495803
    anyway intriguing crass-shaped object

    Posted by: reinhard at September 15, 2007 10:54 PM

    38°47'43.07"N 119°10'54.39"W
    Please look at this coordinate. There is an object with sharp edges that is not visible in base Google Earth imagery.

    Posted by: CK20008 at September 16, 2007 12:26 AM

    38° 2'23.95"N 118°25'42.89"W

    Posted by: rg at September 16, 2007 12:49 AM

    Noticed this:

    38 deg 31 min 21.28 sec N

    118 deg 59 min 45.70 sec W

    Elev. 845' on GoogleEarth

    Posted by: k7zb at September 16, 2007 07:37 AM

    38°31'13.00"N 118°58'36.51"W

    Posted by: robo at September 16, 2007 08:27 AM

    Have found two white spots
    38' 43" 45.92N 118' 58" 10.85W
    38' 43" 42.92N 118' 58" 07.08N

    View at 1000ft or you will miss them.
    Fits all criteria/timings etc but north of Search zone. Have tried to pass it on. :-(

    Comments?

    Posted by: David P at September 16, 2007 10:37 AM

    Put these into the "Fly to" box on Google Earth:

    38.392760,-119.103150

    (PS And can someone explain why my pointer gives different co-ordinates when I hover mouse over the area?)

    Posted by: Hils at September 16, 2007 02:59 PM

    Pls check it:
    38.642921,-118.879662

    I reported it on Amazon

    Posted by: Istvan Takacs at September 16, 2007 04:36 PM

    38°35'46.58"N 118°58'32.72"W looks interesting.

    Posted by: A.M.Schoo at September 16, 2007 05:50 PM

    I have been feverishly working on the case of Steve Fossett's disappearance and have come up with an area that I have defined just east of the original search area and just west of the newly defined search area. I have a saved Google Earth image with push pins that include my logic for putting the area just in between the other areas.

    I used both Google Earth and Flight Simulator Ten (FSX) to come up with my findings, and I'm convinced that Steve may have actually been heading for either R-4811 or Alkali Lake after he ran into trouble (based on the camper's comments).

    Please email directly if you would like a copy of the image I've defined that include my reasons why I think he can be found where I've indicated.

    I hope this helps find Mr. Fossett.

    ---Dean Ceran

    Posted by: Dean Ceran at September 16, 2007 06:21 PM

    38° 9'54.52"N 119°21'19.28"W

    Posted by: lynn peters at September 16, 2007 08:27 PM

    HOW DO WE REPORT COORDINATES THAT ARE NOT FROM AMAZON TO THE SEARCHERS/ANALYSTS?
    Is anyone related to the search investigating these posts?

    Posted by: FL188 at September 16, 2007 10:37 PM

    Possible crash site and debris field?
    38°48'8.16"N 118°50'17.97"W

    Posted by: Jeff at September 16, 2007 11:10 PM

    FL188, I contacted the search organization to let them know about the discoveries being made at Google Earth Blog.

    Posted by: Frank Taylor at September 17, 2007 07:38 AM

    I have been re-checking all coord. posted.
    also have received numerous emails from individuals for rechecks.
    Any coord. that are posted that have ANY value for further research I will repost findings and pass on to my contact at the search command post.

    remember to post 4 sets of numbers for each lat. and long.

    thanks

    tdfusa@bellsouth.net

    Posted by: Rick at September 17, 2007 08:28 AM

    38°48'15.27"N 118°57'50.07"W

    Posted by: LYNN PETERS at September 17, 2007 10:24 AM

    38°28'35.549"N, 118°41'03.77"W could be the light could be an aircraft, not sure if this is within the search images though ?

    Posted by: Ian Steventon at September 17, 2007 10:35 AM

    38°49'17.09"N 118°58'34.16"W -

    Posted by: LYNN PETERS at September 17, 2007 10:37 AM

    38°40'55.52"N 118°54'12.62"W

    Posted by: LYNN PETERS at September 17, 2007 11:18 AM

    38°26'5.17"N 119° 1'39.56"W

    Posted by: LYNN PETERS at September 17, 2007 12:34 PM

    38° 8'44.53"N 118°27'12.97"W

    Posted by: owl at September 17, 2007 03:40 PM

    38°26'53.64"N 119° 1'12.73"W

    Posted by: LYNN PETERS at September 17, 2007 04:16 PM

    38°28'34.38"N 119° 0'4.54"W

    Posted by: LYNN PETERS at September 17, 2007 04:30 PM

    38°29'11.96"N 118°59'38.89"W -

    Posted by: LYNN PETERS at September 17, 2007 04:38 PM

    Looks also sike a crash site... two straight
    ??wings?? and rest of something with row in sand and dust after impact lat= 38.8467243199 lon=- 118.627082856

    Posted by: Josef at September 17, 2007 04:48 PM

    Bright white shape (wing and fuselage?) on mountain side.

    38.45797, -118.88041

    Posted by: James Harrell at September 17, 2007 08:56 PM

    Stabbing at thin air here, I came across this in his flight-path:
    38.517684,-118.874962

    Also these were on the Amazon Turk. I'm 95% sure they are on the old imagery but they sure as heck look like planes.
    38.464000,-118.823804
    38.457397,-119.023084


    Posted by: dirtgirl at September 17, 2007 11:20 PM

    When are we going to get the imagery for the mountains southwest of Hawthorne? Seems kinda key.

    Posted by: dirtgirl at September 18, 2007 12:03 PM

    T shape item at 38.219376,-119.639053 Google Earth; not sure what it is.

    Posted by: Larry Keahey at September 19, 2007 02:41 AM

    Check: 38 28 23 44N, 118 49 26 41W

    Posted by: Tommy at September 19, 2007 10:39 AM

    This looks not like a plane, but like LETTERS: ?
    38 26 48 92 -- 119 17 32 67

    did he have a parachute? maybe he had the chance to use one..so maybe we also should look for "help" signs..


    good luck

    Posted by: freckels at September 19, 2007 11:47 AM

    38.4731541602N, 118.823978685W Clearing with small white object on east side.

    Posted by: Tommy at September 19, 2007 03:55 PM

    38°24'34.39"N 119° 1'30.81"W

    Posted by: Tommy at September 19, 2007 04:23 PM

    Check: 38.239975,-119.569016, left bottom corner

    Posted by: Ice at September 19, 2007 04:52 PM

    Okay, with hundreds if not thousands of eyes looking for him (in the air, ground, via satellite imagery), wouldn't it be possible that because it was such a nice day, that he might have gone off the "projected path" and take a round about path? I can't help but think everyone is so concentrated on looking "inside the box" that he may be right outside it. He's an adventurer/explorer; wouldn't that make sense? That said...I found something that looks like wreckage of some sort that slid down part of a mountain at:
    39 26 00 59 N and 120 02 55 66 W

    Posted by: Dee at September 19, 2007 05:07 PM

    Greetings from Texas!
    If you would like to see a plane in an inappropriate place...I think I might have found the needle in the hay stack! I used Google Earth instead of Turk. At first I found what looks like a plane on Paoha Island Coordinates 38°00'55.50"N, 119°01'53.39"W. You can copy and paste then zoom in real tight. You will see a "plus" or 4 rt angles or possibly a plane on land about 2 plane lengths from the North shore. It is hard to tell if it is a plane.
    I was pretty excited about that, but then God, in all his mercy...well, check it out for yourselves and let me know what you think. I believe there is no question.......June Lake submerged plane Coordinates .... 37°47'28.04"N, 119°04'04.66"W
    .....

    Posted by: D Dearinger at September 20, 2007 05:15 AM

    D Dearinger: June Lake: It is a plane, but it could also be a reflexion from a flying one?!
    That's why someone should set up a webpage where all findings are collected, structured and commented...
    Everyone is posting coordinates but there is no feedback at all. What do you think? Does this make sense or is there alreay a page I don't know

    Posted by: Ice at September 20, 2007 03:55 PM

    I have a a good suggestion, and i hope u will pass it on.
    A sattelite image for mining purposes only can look selectively for large hunks of metal on the ground.
    His engine could be found probably and differentiated form most other sites quickly. He hasnt been found yet cause the wreck is likely disguised a bit. There are specific satellites used for mining that take images using special filters looking for minerals. This is how this should proceed. pass it on

    Posted by: wade at September 20, 2007 06:01 PM

    D,
    I have to agree, this looks exactly like a submerged plane, but it is also extremely visible from altitude. You would think surely the search planes would have spotted it and already checked it out... If not, it needs to be.
    JR

    Posted by: John at September 21, 2007 05:37 AM

    In regards to it being a reflection... It can't be a reflexion or we would be able to see the aircraft in flight. Since this is a satelite photo, both would be in the picture...

    JR

    Posted by: John at September 21, 2007 11:18 AM

    Re: the plane "in the water"

    See the blue shadow above the plane? The plane is flying low over the water and the tip of its shadow is visible just in front of the nose of the plane. All through these images there will be planes flying, always with the blue shadow above it in the image. The reason for the blue color has something to do with the way colors bend around an object in the sunshine, but it's a good indicator of a flying plane and not one on the ground or under the water.

    Posted by: P Graves at September 21, 2007 05:27 PM

    Please look at 37 34 06 25 N 117 39 41 97 W.

    There is an image of an airplane in a ravine that measures the 22 feet 11 inches and seems to be on its back with the bottom of the plane facing up. (Wings are pointing North to South, with rear of plane pointing west. If you also look just above the image to the left, there seems to be the image of a person walking. Steve Fossett was searching for flat desert areas to test his cars and would most likely have been in this area.

    Posted by: Barbara Giordani at September 22, 2007 02:07 AM

    latitude..38*42'34.40"N longtitude..118*52'33.35"W Range..97m Heading..2.000000* Tilt..54.000000*

    Posted by: david brown at September 22, 2007 06:54 AM

    Hi
    I have found a plane, but am a noob please check ,i am sure it's a plane.
    38°41'54.31"N, 119°02'14.47"W

    Peter

    Posted by: Peter at September 22, 2007 08:28 AM

    39° 2'50.77"N 118°17'57.57"W

    Posted by: LYNN PETERS at September 22, 2007 09:29 AM

    38°50'22.75"N 119°27'13.01"W

    Posted by: LYNN PETERS at September 22, 2007 11:04 AM

    39°14'30.06"N 119°25'0.84"W

    Posted by: LYNN PETERS at September 22, 2007 11:42 AM

    39° 9'52.08"N 119°16'30.41"W

    Posted by: LYNN PETERS at September 22, 2007 12:12 PM

    When I review this area there are a lot of symbol-like items around it and several things that could be from some type of plane.
    Looks like an X in a circle: 38°31'39.73"N, 38°31'39.73"N
    Nearby, this looks like 3 Xs: 38°31'37.12"N, 38°31'37.12"N
    Unusual shading: 38°31'37.12"N, 118°53'1.96"W
    Another X with something planelike near it: 38°31'37.88"N, 118°52'47.80"W
    Looks like a large cross, the center starts about here: 38°31'31.47"N, 118°52'53.84"W

    On the most recent overlay, nearby “Anita for Tash” wrote: September 17th, 2007 at 2:08 am . . . looks like there is something there and when I viewed the hit on Mturk, there seemed to be an X nearby at 38.5254°, -118.881°. Coordinates: 38° 31"31.44'N, -118° 52"51.60'W; Decimal Degrees: -118.881,38.5254

    Posted by: JF at September 22, 2007 07:54 PM

    see at : 39°12'59.25"N - 118°31'03.63" O..!!??

    Posted by: Phil at September 23, 2007 02:41 PM

    38 29'11.78N 118 27'04.00W

    Posted by: Jane Pascoe at September 24, 2007 04:12 AM

    38 37'48.39"N, 118 44'14.47"W

    Definately a plane, can't tell if it's floating or flying

    Posted by: Mark at September 24, 2007 01:25 PM

    I hope you know the majority of the sat views were before steve went down feb 4, 2007.
    makin fools of you all and gettin ready to spend steve's money. bs from ps He's in California anyway...

    Posted by: gary ellers at September 25, 2007 11:32 AM

    38 50 50 06 N. - 119 10 45 47 O.

    Posted by: Ladriere R at September 25, 2007 06:15 PM

    38 32 48 38 N. - 119 44 32 51 O.

    Posted by: Ladriere R at September 25, 2007 06:34 PM

    38°40'3.44"N 118°50'22.39"W What is this Please look about.tks

    Posted by: Erich Neulinger at September 26, 2007 04:18 AM

    ***IMPORTANT***

    Looking at Google Earth at location 38°26'15.41"N 118°32'19.73"W with overlay DG_60cm, I located some strange shapes, not on basic Google Earth. they are also in GeoEye_Delivery4, with exactly same position but some image alignment offset 338m ~ 5°

    There are not only one, but several as shows images attached. I personally flagged 4 parts, all white.

    Zooming and processing the biggest one, it appears clearly some blue pixels on top of the shape that could belong to Decathlon wings.

    What can be confusing is that some other yellow parts are also new some hundreds meters south east
    A big yellow shape originally present ( 38°26'10.50"N 118°32'15.38"W) disappeared in new images and 2 other smaller same color appeared ( 38°26'11.03"N 118°32'16.33"W and 38°26'11.66"N 118°32'15.78"W ) . At the same time, another white shape ( 38°26'10.83"N 118°32'15.25"W) appeared, all those stuff less than 200 meters from clearly identified ones.
    Using Google Earth to figure this out, it is possible that the plane at high speed oblique N W trajectory having stroked the original shape could have broken it in 2 shapes, while spreading debris ahead on a 200 m area 35~40 m lower that this initial impact point.

    This is located apparently inside U.S. Army Ammunition Depot, what could explain that nobody could reach it because area is probably closed and although located along a road ( that could have try to reach Steve in an attempt to land more safely ), it may have been completely ignored because no patrol ever gone there.


    Hope it helps

    Posted by: Jean at September 26, 2007 06:12 AM

    38°30'29.61"N
    119° 3'22.77"W

    Posted by: jcs at September 26, 2007 11:24 AM

    someone please go to these coordinates and check
    out what is there
    37degrees58.349 N
    118degrees32.879W

    Posted by: Jim Wallace at September 28, 2007 03:25 PM

    38.233722 N
    119.412219 W Elev 8465

    White, aircraft shaped object, too rectangular to be natural. Largely intact. On the side of a ravine. It sure looks like the right shape, but maybe too intact to be a downed aircraft. Perhaps someone else with more experience can check it out.

    Posted by: Marc Albritton at September 30, 2007 12:59 PM

    38, 25, 35, 24 N by 118, 44, 10, 50 looks like a plane

    Posted by: jeff at October 2, 2007 08:33 PM

    38°24’54.22”N, 118°47’0521”W is a good could be. It looks like it made a hard touchdown then went down the slope about 255’ WEST (NOT east as I wrote in my last comment)
    did a 180 and came to rest. Looks like the wings are crumpled. It also looks twisted near the tail.

    Posted by: Mike M at October 4, 2007 12:52 PM

    Investigate Backwards on this one:

    He did not have his Cell Phone
    He did not have his Watch GPS
    He did not have the ELT activated

    3 major points

    Here ya go, as a risk manager and a good one I would suspect there were some out of the ordinary incidents happen to cause this loss.

    It usually takes more than just one incident or action to cause a plane to come up missing. Think about it people.

    What is it that has not been told about this incident?

    Why due to past experience and previous type attempts for land speed records do you need to go look for a spot on MEMORIAL DAY? Why do you need to look for a flat spot at all. How many times were vehicles ran across the Desert for testing?

    The story does not match his character. No Cell Phone? No GPS? No ELT activated. and a Gazillion people on this planet looking. No contact with Reno Departure or any FSS? Hint - He always had a radio and used it regardless.........I bet I can find out what did happen.

    I believe I may have the answer? This is not a 911 Conspiracy Theory or Pulling Building 7 or anything like that. As Columbo always said "UH By The Way I have one more question?" Look at one incident on what did happen then rule out what did not happen. What did happen is he got in a small Airplane and left the Hilton Ranch. 'Flying M" or what ever you want to call it.

    John Browning RENOFLAMES41@aol.com


    Posted by: John Browning at October 7, 2007 10:42 PM

    what is the object at this coordinate
    37.972007 -118.549934 it measures the right
    size and sure looks like a plane to me.

    Posted by: henry 93 at October 8, 2007 01:13 PM

    This is it: Plane is located on the southwest perimeter on top of a sand bar in Walker Lake. Image can be zoomed to 10 feet and encompass the entire frame. If plane was in flight, there would be nothing but a white blob.

    38° 37'48.39"N, 118° 44'14.46"W

    38.6301083333,-118.73735

    11928259942452682.kml

    Posted by: Walter at October 19, 2007 11:19 PM

    What if our friend Steve - got tired of the glamor and risk taking and just wanted a rest .. and wanted to "get lost" - so did anyone check the fueling stops - like Las Vegas - etc ??

    This Google Earth is fantastic. Will read..

    Regards to Steve where ever he is and let us know You are OK./JSm N3RF Chm SRL and LSRF

    Posted by: Johan-in-Washington at October 25, 2007 07:43 AM

    I saw something looks like a airplane on two different spots. Maybe you have checked them already: 41°02'52.48 N / 115°16'48.16 W and
    37°53'11.34 N / 118°19'09.72 W

    I did n't find this cordinators on an other comment. I know that they are outside of the seaching fields, but it's not sooo far.
    There is still hope!

    Regards and good luck.

    Tess

    Posted by: Theresa Abelarde at January 24, 2008 01:19 PM

    Walker Lake, about 2 miles South of the official search circle has been mentioned by several psychics as well as at least one experienced local pilot and was apparently searched with sonar.
    So, it is probably hard to imagine that the clear angular light blue spot in the center [ 37°52'26.36"N, 119° 9'52.40"W ] as well as a bit of similar light blue along the near shore [ 37°52'29.27"N, 119° 9'52.66"W ] connected by a vague (disturbed sediment?) trail, starting well before the shore spot and then curving toward the central object, could be Steve Fossett's plane.
    Moreover, since this lies outside the official search area the imagery might of course predate the disappearance date....
    Yet I was unable to find any other reports covering these spots and hope someone either knows the date these GE images were taken or has access to some other method of verification.

    Posted by: Henk Meuzelaar at February 24, 2008 02:18 AM

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